![]() I'm aware, I play one in society, I was just trying to leave out corner cases. I've got a Seeker-level Sorcerer/Oracle that uses it to AMAZING effect in PFS. Colorspray can be incredibly good even at high levels if you have the Oracle of Heavens revelation "Awesome Display", which treats all creatures affected as if they have your Charisma bonus FEWER hit dice. Just not uber at higher levels as it only stuns 1 rd if they have 5 HD. It remains relevant a lot longer than all of those (maybe not charm if specialized and not silent image if the player is clever). I've got a Seeker-level Sorcerer/Oracle that uses it to AMAZING effect in PFS.Īt lower levels this spell is out done by colorspray, charm person, sleep, and silent image. Sleep becomes useless though.Ĭolorspray can be incredibly good even at high levels if you have the Oracle of Heavens revelation "Awesome Display", which treats all creatures affected as if they have your Charisma bonus FEWER hit dice. If you do something like this, let me know how it's received.Īt lower levels this spell is out done by colorspray, charm person, sleep, and silent image. Haven't tried this myself, but I've been tossing the idea around. "Could you just write an example into each of those boxes? That way, I'll know what to aim for and what to avoid when deciding how to use my illusions, without having to constantly ask you questions because I have it right in front of me! Sound good?" Whatever you rule, my character would know that's how his spells work, so I'd like to establish a baseline from which to make my play decisions." I'm playing an illusionist I know everyone runs illusions a little differently, so I want to get on the same page with you before we start. Make a little index card or piece of paper or something, and divide it into three boxes, each labeled with a direct quote from the illusion rules:īox 1 is labeled with "Creatures encountering an illusion usually do not receive saving throws to recognize it as illusory."īox 2 continues with ".until they study it carefully or interact with it in some fashion."įinally, Box 3 is labeled with "A character faced with proof that an illusion isn't real needs no saving throw."Īt the start of the game, smilingly introduce your PC to the GM: It remains relevant a lot longer than all of those (maybe not charm if specialized and not silent image if the player is clever).Ĭolorspray is always relevant. I still say snowballs strengths more than make up for this though.Īt lower levels this spell is out done by colorspray, charm person, sleep, and silent image. Second you don't get the +3 to hit an armored opponent.Īnd as a small side note cold resistance/immunity is more common than electricity, by a fair amount if I'm remembering correctly. First, it's a ranged touch so if you miss you loose it. When it came out I found myself comparing it to shocking grasp, and how it's better in nearly every way.īut it does have 2 (imo small) weaknesses compared to shocking grasp. I'm still throwing them around at level 12 right now, usually intensified via a rod. ![]() I agree snowball is powerful for its level. I would be inclined to change it as Alexandros suggested, or leave it as is but have the damage scale at 1d6 + 1d6 for every two levels above 1st (max 5d6). Also it's pretty common for monsters to have cold resistance. But your enemy will also make that save most of the time. Yes, at higher levels you will hit most of the time. So a range: touch spell at 1st level is questionable. If he can maneuver to get a shot without cover then he still needs a 15. Combine that with the penalty for firing into melee and for cover, he usually has to roll a 19 to hit. He has a DEX of 14.īut the main enemy has been goblins, who have a touch AC of 13. I am running RotRL now and the party sorcerer figured he could use ray of frost and his elemental blasts most of the time, saving his spell slots for when it really counted. People talk about touch attacks and how great they are, but your 1st level caster is going to have a hard time hitting with this spell. If it did not bypass SR this spell would be pretty average. Overall I don't think the spell is that OP but I think the SR issue is relevant. ![]() I am kind of in agreement with Alexandros here.
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